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    Minutes show Fed ready to raise rates, shrink balance sheet soon

    Federal Reserve officials outlined plans for interest rate hikes and a reduction in the asset holdings on their balance sheet at their last meeting.
    Minutes released Wednesday from the January session show concern about inflation and financial stability though members urged a measured approach to tightening monetary policy.
    FOMC members noted that inflation was beginning to spread beyond pandemic-affected sectors and into the broader economy.

    Federal Reserve officials set plans into motion at their most recent meeting to begin raising interest rates and shed the trillions of dollars in bonds on the central bank balance sheet, according to minutes released Wednesday.
    Some officials at the meeting expressed concerns over financial stability, saying that loose monetary policy could be posing a substantial risk.

    They indicated that interest rate hikes likely are on the way soon, and they said the unwind of the bond portfolio could be aggressive.
    “Participants observed that, in light of the current high level of the Federal Reserve’s securities holdings, a significant reduction in the size of the balance sheet would likely be appropriate,” the meeting summary stated.
    The policymaking Federal Open Market Committee decided after the two-day session that it would not raise interest rates yet but strongly indicated a hike is on the way as soon as March.
    Despite the seemingly hawkish tone, stocks shaved losses after the release of the minutes.
    “The market correctly interpreted them as dovish relative to expectations,” said Simona Mocuta, chief economist at State Street Global Advisors. “Frankly, I would call them anticlimactic.”

    Markets have been on edge over the past several weeks as soaring inflation and hawkish talk from some Fed officials, in particular St. Louis Fed President James Bullard, has caused traders to price in the equivalent of seven 0.25 percentage point rate hikes this year. Market pricing eased some after the minutes release, with a 50-50 chance now of the Fed taking its benchmark rate up by 1.75 percentage points.
    “There’s been so much hype recently that I think everybody was braced for a very hawkish tone in the minutes, and the minutes were more like, ‘We’ll do it, of course, but we’ll walk before we run,'” Mocuta said. “It seems enough for the Fed to do four hikes. Talk the hawkish talk, tell everybody that we are watching this closely, and if we need to do more we can do more.”

    In addition to the rates talk, the committee set out procedures for how it will start unwinding its nearly $9 trillion balance sheet, which consists largely of bonds it has purchased in an effort to drive down rates and stimulate growth.
    March is also the month when the asset purchase program is set to end, though some members at the meeting were hoping for a faster conclusion. Instead, the committee set forth a path in which the Fed will buy $20 billion in Treasurys over the next month and nearly $30 billion in mortgage-backed securities.
    “A couple of participants stated that they favored ending the Committee’s net asset purchases sooner to send an even stronger signal that the Committee was committed to bringing down inflation,” the minutes said.

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    Members discussed how the balance sheet reduction will occur. The most likely path is by allowing some proceeds from maturing bonds to roll off each month rather than being reinvested. However, some officials said it may be necessary to sell mortgages outright in an effort to get the balance sheet holding to purely Treasurys.
    Since the meeting, fresh inflation readings have shown prices rising at the fastest pace in 40 years. The Fed targets inflation to average around 2%, and officials have conceded that policy needs to get tighter to bring prices down.
    Inflation occupied a good deal of the discussion during the meeting, according to the minutes. The term is mentioned 73 times in the summary, with members saying that price increases have been stronger and more persistent than they had anticipated.
    “Participants remarked that recent inflation readings had continued to significantly exceed the Committee’s longer-run goal and elevated inflation was persisting longer than they had anticipated, reflecting supply and demand imbalances related to the pandemic and the reopening of the economy,” the document stated.
    FOMC members noted that inflation was beginning to spread beyond Covid pandemic-affected sectors and into the broader economy.
    “Participants acknowledged that elevated inflation was a burden on U.S. households, particularly those who were least able to pay higher prices for essential goods and services,” the minutes said.
    There also was discussion about financial stability. Officials noted that risks are coming from elevated asset prices as well as the rapid price increases in crypto assets.

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    Stocks making the biggest moves midday: Roblox, Shopify, Upstart and more

    In this photo illustration the logo of Canadian e-commerce company Shopify Inc. is displayed on a smartphone.
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    Check out the companies making headlines in midday trading.
    Roblox — Shares of the metaverse-focused gaming company plunged more than 25% after Roblox’s latest quarterly report missed Wall Street expectations. Roblox posted a loss of 25 cents per share on revenue of $770 million. Analysts surveyed by Refinitiv expected a loss of 13 cents per share on revenue of $772 million.

    Shopify — The e-commerce platform tanked more than 18% in midday trading after the company said revenue growth for 2022 would be slower than the 57% it achieved in 2021. Shopify, however, beat on the top and bottom lines of its quarterly results.
    Upstart — Shares of the consumer lending platform surged more than 35% after it reported earnings well above Wall Street estimates. Upstart reported earnings of 89 cents per share, topping estimates of 51 cents, according to Refinitiv. Revenue also beat forecasts. The company also issued strong first-quarter and full-year revenue guidance.
    ViacomCBS – The media stock dropped 21% on Wednesday after the company, now known as Paramount Global, reported weaker-than-expected earnings for the fourth quarter. Bank of America also downgraded the stock to neutral, saying that Paramount’s focus on streaming lowered the chances of a takeover offer in the near term.
    Macy’s — Shares of the department store rallied more than 4% after Evercore ISI upgraded Macy’s to outperform from in-line, saying in a note to clients that the retailer’s stock did not reflect the upside potential for its sales and profits.
    Vacasa — The vacation-rental company’s stock rose more than 11% in midday trading after JPMorgan initiated coverage with an overweight rating, saying in a note that the company has some competitive edges over more established names in the space.

    Airbnb — Shares of the vacation rental company jumped 5% after Airbnb reported better-than-expected results for earnings and sales in the fourth quarter. The company said the lead times for bookings in the U.S. and Europe have returned to prepandemic levels.
    Generac — The stock allied more than 10% after earnings beating top and bottom line estimates for its quarterly results. The maker of generators and power equipment earned an adjusted $2.51 per share, 11 cents above estimates, as both commercial and residential sales rose more than 40%.
    Kraft Heinz — Shares of the food company rose 3.5% after it reported better-than-expected earnings and revenue for the fourth quarter. Kraft Heinz report an adjusted quarterly profit of 79 cents per share, beating estimates by 16 cents. 
    La-Z-Boy — The furniture company’s stock plunged more than 17% following a big earnings miss. La-Z-Boy reported earnings of 65 cents per share last quarter, well below the 89-cent consensus estimate, according to Refinitiv. The company said it experienced multiple production issues related to the pandemic.
    — with reporting from CNBC’s Yun Li, Jesse Pound and Hannah Miao.

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    Biden administration is keeping a close eye on private equity and other 'alternative' investments

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    The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and U.S. Department of Labor have taken recent regulatory steps aimed at private equity and other alternative investments.
    The moves would raise transparency for investors and likely reduce the pool of 401(k) plan savers with private-equity exposure.

    SEC chairman Gary Gensler testifies before a Senate Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs Committee hearing on Sept. 14, 2021 in Washington.
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    The Biden administration is lending a more cautious eye to private equity and other “alternative” investments such as hedge funds.
    The U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission and U.S. Department of Labor have taken steps in recent weeks to boost transparency for investors and rein in the pool of retirement savers who can buy private equity.

    Private equity refers to investment in an entity that isn’t publicly traded (unlike stock in companies such as Apple and Microsoft, which is available on a public exchange).

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    The investment category is generally off-limits to anyone who isn’t an “accredited” investor, someone deemed to have a minimum level of income, wealth or expertise to participate. (Retirement plans pose a slightly different dynamic; in this context, the employer acts as a gatekeeper that can choose to make private equity available to its workers.)

    “The Biden administration, through various agencies, is taking a deliberate look at the potential impacts of the private equity market, especially on retail and retirement investors,” said Dylan Bruce, financial services counsel for the Consumer Federation of America, an advocacy group.

    What regulators are doing

    The SEC on Feb. 9 proposed a multipronged rule to increase transparency, by requiring private-equity funds to issue quarterly statements detailing fees and performance, among other things.
    It would also limit the preferential treatment some investors get, such as additional disclosures that may have a “material negative effect” on other investors, according to the SEC. It would also require an annual audit of private funds and prohibit funds from engaging in certain conflicts of interest.

    Separately, the Labor Department published a notice on Dec. 21 designed to limit the scope of Trump administration guidance from June 2020.
    The Trump-era labor agency laid out legal parameters for employers to consider if they’d like to offer employees a 401(k) plan fund with an allocation to private equity. But the Biden administration limited the memo’s application, though didn’t repeal it.

    These well-heeled, well-represented investors are able to fend for themselves, and our resources are better spent on retail investor protection.

    Hester Peirce
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    Specifically, the agency said employers already managing private equity for the company pension plan are likely best suited to analyze whether private equity makes sense for their 401(k); the department “cautions” other companies (i.e., those not fluent in private equity) from doing so.
    “They put more ‘guardrails’ about what the June 2020 letter said,” Julie Stapel, a partner at law firm Morgan Lewis, said. “It’s not an endorsement or acceptance of widespread use of private equity … without that prior expertise and experience.”

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    The additional regulatory focus is largely because the market and access to private funds (like private equity, venture capital and hedge funds) have grown in the past few decades.
    The funds hold $18 trillion in gross assets, according to SEC Chair Gary Gensler. Globally, private equity assets have grown tenfold since 2000, about three times the pace of public stocks over the same period, according to McKinsey, a consulting firm.
    Further, 16 million households were eligible to buy private funds in 2019, up from 1.3 million in 1983, according to SEC data.
    That amounts to 13% of all U.S. households in 2019, versus 1.6% in the early 1980s. The share likely increased after 2020, when the Trump administration expanded the pool of accredited investors.

    “Sometimes, [the investors] are wealthy individuals,” said Gensler, who was appointed by President Joe Biden. “Often, though, they’re retirement plans, like state government pension plans, or nonprofit and university endowments.
    “The people behind those funds and endowments often are teachers, firefighters, municipal workers, students and professors,” he added.
    Consumer advocates worry about increased access. Private investments carry more risk and opacity and have less liquidity if an investor needs their money, they said.

    Performance

    But proponents tout the higher return potential of private equity relative to the public stock market.
    Private equity yielded a 15.7% net annual rate of return, at the median, over the past decade, relative to 14.8% for the S&P 500 Index, according to an analysis by the American Investment Council, a trade group representing the private equity industry.
    “The [regulatory] guidance reaffirms that private equity is a valuable investment option and an important part of a diversified portfolio,” said Emily Schillinger, a spokesperson for the American Investment Council, a trade group. “A wide range of data confirms that private equity delivers the strongest returns to public servants and retirees across America.”
    The performance gap between private equity and public stocks has “narrowed,” according to a report by Michael Cembalest, chairperson of market and investment strategy at J.P. Morgan Asset Management.

    In 2009, the average private-equity fund outperformed the S&P 500 by 15%. However, that outperformance has since fallen to 1% to 5% a year — which investors may not think justifies its illiquidity relative to public markets, Cembalest said.
    Regulators deem accredited investors to have the knowledge and wealth to bear the financial risk of alternative investments.
    Households must have a net worth of more than $1 million (excluding the value of a primary residence) to qualify. Individuals may instead qualify with annual income of more than $200,000 during the last two years (or $300,000 for married couples).
    Those thresholds aren’t pegged to inflation, which is a primary reason the ranks of accredited investors have grown since the 1980s.
    Not all SEC officials think more regulation for private equity is a good idea, though.
    “These well-heeled, well-represented investors are able to fend for themselves, and our resources are better spent on retail investor protection,” SEC commissioner Hester Peirce, who was appointed by former President Donald Trump, said Feb. 9. “Accordingly, I am voting no on today’s proposal.” More

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    Avocados will likely be in short supply and more expensive due to Mexican-import suspension

    The federal government has suspended all imports of Mexican avocados after a U.S. plant safety inspector in Mexico received a threat.
    Avocado supply is expected to shrink in the coming weeks until the suspension is lifted.
    Consumers also will likely find themselves paying more at grocery stores and restaurants for avocado products.

    Avocados are seen in a grocery market in New York, United States on February 14, 2022.
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    Avocados will likely be in short supply and more expensive in the coming weeks if a current U.S. suspension of Mexican avocado imports persists.
    On Saturday, the Mexican government confirmed the U.S. government had suspended all imports of Mexican avocados after a U.S. plant safety inspector in Mexico received a threat. The pause was a surprise, giving grocers, restaurants and consumers no time to prepare before Mexican avocado imports ground to a halt. And while the suspension is temporary, it’s unclear how long it will last.

    Michoacan was the only Mexican state fully authorized to export its avocados to the U.S. until the suspension. The United States relies heavily on the border nation for that product; roughly 80% of the avocados bought in the U.S. come from there, according to David Magana, Rabobank senior fruits and vegetables analyst. And this time of year, that number rises closer to about 90%.
    “Obviously, we will see availability of avocados significantly decline in the next couple of weeks, and by economic logic, we can expect avocado prices to increase temporarily,” Magana said.
    However, California avocado production is up about 15% compared to the year-earlier period, Magana said. That should help offset at least some of the supply issues, although likely not enough to satisfy U.S. consumers’ appetite for the fruit.
    Since Michoacan began exporting the fruit about 25 years ago, avocado sales have skyrocketed, thanks to the soaring popularity of guacamole and avocado toast. From 2001 to 2018, Americans quadrupled their consumption of avocados to eight pounds a year per person, according to data from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. Super Bowl weekend still sees peak demand for the year.
    Unofficially, Magana said the suspension could take several weeks to get lifted.

    “If this ban lasts only two weeks, we will probably see less availability, but I don’t think that the impact is going to be too big. We’re just past Super Bowl weekend, and people probably already have avocados in their kitchen,” he said.
    Due to their growing popularity and seasonality, avocado prices are often unstable. Last year, higher shipment levels meant abnormally low prices, but strong demand so far in 2021 has raised prices.
    For its part, the U.S. government hasn’t given any official timeline for how long the suspension could last.
    “The suspension will remain in place for as long as necessary to ensure the appropriate actions are taken, to secure the safety of APHIS personnel working in Mexico,” the USDA’s Animal and Plant Health Inspection Service said in a statement to CNBC.
    The agency also said it is working with Customs and Border Protection to allow avocados that were inspected and certified for export by Feb. 11 to continue to be imported.
    The grocery store won’t be the only place to feel the pressure of the import ban. Restaurants will also likely have to pay more for avocados and face challenges securing supply. Truist analyst Jake Bartlett wrote in a note Monday that avocados account for 5% to 10% of Chipotle Mexican Grill’s cost of goods sold and about 2% of El Pollo Loco’s.
    Chipotle has seen its quarterly earnings dented before by high avocado prices. The burrito chain was already anticipating seasonally higher avocado prices for the first quarter.
    “We are working closely with our suppliers to navigate through this challenge,” Chipotle CFO Jack Hartung said in a statement to CNBC. “Our sourcing partners currently have several weeks of inventory available, so we’ll continue to closely monitor the situation and adjust our plans accordingly.”
    Despite the near-term price concerns, there is good news on the horizon for avocado fans. The U.S. recently approved a second Mexican state, Jalisco, to begin exporting its avocados. Magana expects those imports will start hitting U.S. grocery stores this summer, which could help bring prices down in the long term.

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    Walmart's earnings may signal if shoppers are spending or getting spooked by inflation

    Walmart will report its fiscal fourth-quarter earnings on Thursday.
    Along with announcing holiday results, the retail giant may be a bellwether of inflation and indicate whether Americans are starting to spend differently as prices of food and more rise.
    “The voice of Walmart carries more weight in the context of ‘How healthy is the consumer?'” said Steph Wissink, a retail analyst at Jefferies.

    An employee restocks frozen food products at a Walmart Inc. store in Burbank, California.
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    When Walmart reports quarterly earnings Thursday, investors will scour sales numbers and executives’ comments for clues about whether rising prices are making shoppers skittish.
    The retail giant is closely watched as a bellwether of inflation.

    “Any sort of wavering in behavior, they’re going to detect it,” said Steph Wissink, a retail analyst at Jefferies. “The voice of Walmart carries more weight in the context of ‘How healthy is the consumer?'”
    Inflation has risen rapidly, raising questions about what that means for Americans’ spending habits after a pandemic- and stimulus-fueled spending spree. The consumer price index rose by 7.5% in January compared with a year earlier, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, and marked the fastest increase 40 years. Food costs have increased 7% on a 12-month basis and are closely watched because groceries are households’ most frequent purchases.
    Major consumer goods companies, including PepsiCo, Hershey, Coca-Cola and Proctor & Gamble, have passed on price increases to customers — and argued brand loyalty has kept sales strong. Pepsi executives said on an earnings call last week that shoppers will pay more for their favorite snacks and beverages, such as Gatorade. Many of those products are on Walmart’s shelves.
    Wissink, however, said the backdrop is changing: Consumers spent freely during the holiday season, though challenged by out-of-stocks, shipping delays and other supply chain snarls. Walmart’s report, which will capture its earnings for the three months ended Jan. 31, will include the holiday season. But investors will be most eager to hear about trends over the last few weeks.
    Wissink said consumers may be starting to think twice before opening their wallets as prices creep higher week after week, and they no longer receive stimulus checks from the government.

    Walmart has a unique window into consumers’ mindset: Nearly 90% of Americans live within 10 miles of its stores, cutting across different states, geographic areas and income levels. Food, one of the major categories hit by inflation and a frequent purchase for households, accounts for nearly 60% of its net sales in the U.S., based on sales figures from the nine months of the fiscal year.
    Analysts are mixed about whether inflation will help or hurt Walmart’s sales — and its margins.
    Wissink said lower-income customers may buy less, but Walmart will pick up a larger portion of middle- and upper-income shoppers’ wallets because of the retailer’s reputation for value. She has a buy rating on the company’s shares and her price target is $184, about 37% above where the stock is currently trading. That’s higher than analysts’ average price target of $165.44, according to Refinitiv.
    Scot Ciccarelli, a retail analyst at Truist Securities, however, said Walmart customers who feel pinched have few places to turn to for lower prices, besides perhaps privately owned German discounter Aldi or dollar stores like Dollar General. He said that translates to a pullback in overall spending and an upward battle for Walmart as it tries to grow.
    His rating for the company is neutral and price target is $153.
    Walmart CEO Doug McMillon has said the retailer can use inflation as a competitive advantage. In mid-November, McMillon told CNBC’s “Squawk Box” that the company will undercut rivals and win market share by absorbing some rising costs of shipping, labor and materials rather than passing all of them on in the form of price increases.
    Those comments — and similar ones by Target — sparked a sell-off.
    Walmart has not yet provided an outlook for the year ahead, which is fiscal 2023. Analysts anticipate earnings of $6.70 per share on revenue of $588.36 billion for the full year, up from an estimated $6.42 on revenue of $571.45 billion for fiscal 2022.
    In periods of inflation, shoppers tend to follow a familiar script: Spending more at value retailers. Using coupons and hunting store aisles for discounted items. Trading down to cheaper brands, such as a grocers’ private labels. Buying smaller packs. And skipping discretionary items, such as a new shirt or a gallon of ice cream.
    Shoppers have noticed price hikes and begun to adjust in some of those ways, said Krishnakumar Davey, president of strategic analytics at IRI. More than 90% of consumers said they were concerned or extremely concerned over rising grocery prices, according to a survey of more than 900 consumers by the market research firm in early January.
    According to the survey, 67% of low- and middle-income consumers and roughly half of high-income consumers said they are changing shopping choices due to increased grocery prices. Nearly half of low- and middle-income consumers say they’re looking for more sales and deals and a third of them said they’re cutting back on nonessentials.
    Davey said inflation may also trigger the reversal of pandemic patterns. Americans had traded up to pricier food and beverages — such as a higher-end steak or a gourmet pasta sauce — to mimic the restaurant experience as they had fewer other places to spend their dollars. To reduce Covid exposure, they consolidated store trips and filled up bigger baskets.
    In the coming months, he said retailers may see “cherry-picking” as cash-strapped shoppers go to numerous different stores based on prices of staples like milk, eggs and meat.
    Walmart has missed out on stock gains over the past year. Shares of the company are down 7% over the past 12 months, lagging behind the 14% advance of the S&P 500 and the 2% gain of an exchange-traded fund for the retail sector, as of Tuesday’s close.
    Walmart shares ended at $134.37 on Tuesday, up less than 1%. The company’s market value is $372.73 billion.
    Along with holiday results and impacts of inflation, Chuck Grom, a retail analyst at Gordon Haskett, said he wants to hear updates on Walmart’s efforts to make money in new ways. It is trying to grow its ads business, Walmart Connect; subscription service, Walmart+; and delivery business, GoLocal.
    Grom said other retailers have clearly emerged from the pandemic stronger. Target won more shoppers with its same-day services, such as curbside pickup and home deliveries through Shipt. More Americans joined and renewed memberships at warehouse clubs like Walmart-owned Sam’s Club, Costco and BJ’s Wholesale. And Home Depot and Lowe’s fueled a newfound interest in home improvement and landscaping projects.
    For Walmart, he said, the jury is out.
    “Investors are trying to decipher ‘Has Walmart been a Covid winner? Is Walmart a better business today than it was two years ago?’ And I don’t know if you could really argue that.”

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    Restaurateur says he spends around $750,000 on security to deal with unruly diners

    The CEO of Cameron Mitchell Restaurants told CNBC on Wednesday that unruly diners have cost his business $750,000 a year in security costs.
    “We never spent a dollar on security in our restaurants prior to Covid,” Cameron Mitchell said.
    “It’s difficult for managers,” on top of short staffing as well as rising costs and supply chain issues, he added.

    Cameron Mitchell, chief executive of Cameron Mitchell Restaurants, told CNBC on Wednesday that unruly diners have cost his business $750,000 a year, on top of supply chain snarls and rising inflation that have already hurt his bottom line.
    “We never spent a dollar on security in our restaurants prior to Covid, and now we spend about three-quarters of $1 million a year on security to protect our managers and our staff from some unruly guests that happen in our restaurants,” Mitchell said on “Squawk Box,” adding that while there’s only a “small proportion” of unruly diners, they still affect staff safety.

    Mitchell likened disorderly diners to unruly passengers on airplanes, who have caused a record number of disruptive and violent incidents for U.S. airlines this year. CMR is an independent and privately held restaurant company, which operates 40 restaurants nationwide from Beverly Hills in California to New York City.
    Tensions between patrons and staff particularly over Covid safety guidelines have dogged businesses over the past two years. Mitchell said he believes the unruly diners his staff have encountered are fueled by “rage in general.”
    “It’s difficult for managers. And then they’re dealing with short staffing. Then we’ve got the rising costs and supply chain issues,” Mitchell said. “Our people are constantly scrambling to get product in, etc. that we need, so it’s very challenging for our day-to-day operations out there,” he added.
    Food prices surged 7% in January from a year earlier, according to data from the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics. Rising costs and a short supply of labor over the past year have also posed a challenge for restaurants. The National Restaurant Association expects it to take a year or more before conditions start to stabilize for eateries.
    Mitchell said his restaurants have felt the effect of the higher costs. “It’s the highest cost of goods I’ve ever operated in, 42 years in the restaurant business. By way of example, last year cost of goods were 29.6% of sales, this year 33% of sales so far. That 3.4% increase to the cost is severely impacting our bottom line,” he said.

    He added that while labor costs are up about 13% overall, his workforce has almost returned to normal levels since taking a hit late last year due to the omicron wave.
    The restaurateur said he expects to increase prices this year to offset costs, and hopes to continue the trend of increasing sales to levels his business saw in 2019, before the pandemic.
    “We can’t price our way out of this, but with the increase in sales, if we get back to where we were with our price increasing, we can not maintain our profit margin,” Mitchell said. However, he added the business can “still lead a pretty good profit over the course of the year.”

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    A $45 billion credit fund manager says the Fed is 'way, way, way behind the curve' on inflation

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    Lawrence Golub helms one of the largest private credit shops in the alternative finance space. His eponymous firm, Golub Capital, has $45 billion in assets under management. That’s no small feat against a backdrop where private debt AUM is expected to total $2.7 trillion by 2026. 

    While private debt has skyrocketed recently, inflation and rising interest rates could pose new challenges. Golub sat down with CNBC’s Delivering Alpha newsletter to discuss how these headwinds impact his firm’s lending strategy and where he thinks the Fed went wrong in taming inflation. 
    (The below has been edited for length and clarity. See above for full video.)
    Leslie Picker: Private credit is floating rates so it still may be an attractive asset to investors in a rising interest rate environment. But how does the broader macro backdrop change the way you dole out capital?
    Lawrence Golub: We’re looking for resiliency in the borrower against things that could go wrong. So when you have interest rates rising, it does reduce the margin of safety somewhat, when you’re looking at the ability of the company to service its debt. That has to be taken in the broader context of what’s going on with the economy as a whole and the economy really is doing very, very well. The inflation is driven by strength, not weakness. And in this environment, our portfolio has been performing at among the best levels ever, in terms of very low default rates. And it’s been a very robust, healthy environment.
    Picker: What’s interesting is that your lending covers a swath of the economy that we don’t always see – it’s private companies, middle market, increasingly larger companies. What can you tell us about their resiliency, especially in the face of inflation? Is that starting to creep into their margins?

    Golub: We pride ourselves on being extremely careful in who we pick to be our partners. Absolutely inflation is feeding into the performance of companies. We segment the various industries that we lend to and we have a quarterly report. And in the industrial sector, even though there’s been robust demand, that’s one area where profits haven’t been as strong because companies, due to supply chain issues, have had trouble meeting all of their customer demands. Nonetheless, in the middle market, profits are up almost 20% year over year so it’s been very robust. 
    Picker: Do you feel like the Fed is ahead of the curve here, that they are on top of the inflation picture and will be able to adequately bring it down from these levels?
    Golub: The Fed will eventually be able to bring it down if it has the will but the Fed is way, way, way behind the curve. When inflation was 1.7% versus their target 2%, the Fed expressed great concern, “Oh, my, we’re not at our targeted levels. We’re not going to raise rates until we actually see the data with inflation over 2%.” Now that inflation is over 7%, the Fed is going slow. It’s not taking the action that it said it was going to take. I think this is a mistake. Larry Summers, on Friday, said the Fed should call an extraordinary meeting and immediately end quantitative easing. I think he’s right. 
    When you look at factors like the quit rate and the open job rates, we have an economy that’s closer by historical standards to what you’d normally see as an unemployment rate of 2% or 3%, rather than what’s being measured. So we have a lot of unmeasured inflation. We have housing costs that aren’t properly reflected in the CPI. We still have a few more months coming up, where the month-over-month comparisons with last year are going to be beaten and the headline inflation rate is going to go up some more. So the Fed is going to tighten, they are going to tighten a lot. I don’t think anybody really knows when the Fed is going to start letting its balance sheet taper off some but they will need to take action and it remains to be seen how soft a landing they’ll be able to engineer. 
    Picker: What’s the chance that they get it wrong and we ultimately wind up in some sort of a recession?
    Golub: There’s a decent chance of that. The question is more of a when, then than anything else. We’re seeing in our results from companies and in backlogs tremendous strength, we don’t see much of any chance of a recession this year. And that momentum will probably carry on well through next year. One of the side effects, though, of the supply chain issues is that businesses of all different types are raising their targeted inventory levels. So as they add to inventory when they eventually start being able to catch up on receiving shipments above sales, at some point, there’s the risk that they overshoot. We in the United States haven’t seen a classic inventory recession in probably 30 years. I think there’s a good chance that there will eventually be an inventory recession sometime in the next five years.
    Picker: What does an inventory recession look like compared to, say, a financial crisis-driven recession?
    Golub: Much milder. An inventory recession is really cutbacks in orders that run a little bit more severely than weakness in and retail sales. And historically, inventory driven recessions have been adjustments of just a few months. They’re still painful when you’re in them, but not as much to worry about.
    Picker: I want to ask you about the industry that you’re in, sometimes known as private credit. Direct lending is a pocket of private credit, probably the largest pocket. You had a record year in 2021 – $36 billion worth of commitments. There have been others that have jumped into this space as well, attracted by the prospect of those investors that like an alternative to fixed income creating those similar returns for them. What’s the competition picture look like right now in this space as its prevalence has just grown to help finance the LBO boom that we’ve seen recently.
    Golub: Well, private credit is bigger than it’s ever been and growing quickly. There have been new entrants and those of us who have been in the industry for years have been growing. The private equity ecosystem is probably about $2 trillion large and within private credit, or I should say private credit is gaining market share at the expense of public credit, broadly syndicated loans. As we and others have grown in the private credit space, we’re able to offer bigger solutions for a larger range of deals from private equity firms. And there’ve been at least two ways in which our industry is gaining market share. We’re gaining market share by replacing broadly syndicated lending in traditional first lien debt. And there’s been a tremendous growth in one stop loans which is very favorable for investors and also favorable for the private equity firms.
    Picker: Do you believe that with the growth in private credit, that it’s created too much leverage in the system? I ask because there was that recent Moody’s report that warned that this leverage embedded in private credit’s, quote, “less-regulated gray zone” carries systemic risks. Do you believe those concerns are valid?
    Golub: First of all, I don’t see any systemic risk. Private credit isn’t interlaced with the financial system, the banking system, the way other kinds of credit are. So even if we’re stupid enough to make some pretty big mistakes, there’s really no plausible way that spills over into being systematic risk. Secondly, private lenders are much smarter about the fundamental recovery, the fundamental value of the loans we make. You can go back decades and our credit losses, we the industry, Golub Capital’s, does better, has lower credit losses than our industry. But even the industry as a whole has lower credit losses than banks ever did in their private equity lending at lower leverage rates. And it has to do with the alignment of interest, long term focus, a real orientation on lending against value as opposed to just some regulator driven credit metrics. 
    And having said that, leverage levels have crept up just as enterprise values have crept up. The stock market, private equity industry, multiples are very, very high and there’s no change in sight. We’re not seeing any reduction in those multiples. So you have this balance between high growth rates and profits, increases in value businesses, the fact that private equity firms do a really good job in general at running the companies that they’re lending to, the fact that private lenders do a very careful job and we have our money where our mouths are, balanced against what’s the right long term amount of leverage. We at Golub Capital are focused on lending for resiliency and not lending for perfection. But it’s absolutely something investors should think hard about, particularly when they’re picking an investment manager.
    Picker: What’s the difference between resiliency and perfection?
    Golub: Resiliency is what you need because you can’t have perfection. If you’re lending against a financial model, and you’re pushing the amount of leverage to the limit of how much is LIBOR or SOFR going to go up, and you’re not taking into account the possibility of a recession, you’re pricing to perfection or structuring to perfection as opposed to structuring for resiliency…When we’re underwriting a loan, we’re not looking at credit ratios. We’re looking at what we think that distressed sale value of a business will be if a bunch of things go wrong. And if we’re lending within that expected distress sale value, that’s resiliency, ultimately, because it gives everybody room to come up with solutions. More