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    China Evergrande shares plunge 12.5%, after $2.6 billion asset sale falls through

    Heavily indebted Evergrande was in talks earlier this month to sell part of its services unit to Hopson Development Holdings, its smaller rival.
    Hopson said Wednesday that talks fell through to purchase just over half of shares issued by Evergrande Property Services.
    The collapse of the Hopson deal comes as Evergrande faces the end of a 30-day grace period on Saturday for a closely watched $83 million interest payment to investors in an offshore U.S. dollar-denominated bond.

    China Evergrande Group started returning a small portion of the money owed to buyers of its investment products, weeks after people protested against missed payments at its Shenzhen headquarters, pictured here on Sept. 30, 2021.
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    BEIJING — China Evergrande shares dropped 12.5% on Thursday, after a deal to sell some of its assets to Hopson Development Holdings fell through.
    Hopson shares closed nearly 7.6% higher, while Evergrande Property Services shares fell 8%.

    Heavily indebted Evergrande was in talks earlier this month to sell part of its services unit to Hopson, its smaller rival. However, Hopson announced late Wednesday that talks fell through to purchase a 50.1% stake in Evergrande Property Services. Evergrande confirmed the termination of the deal in a separate filing.
    The deal would have been worth 20.04 billion Hong Kong dollars ($2.58 billion), according to filings.

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    Evergrande is China’s second-largest developer by sales and the industry’s largest issuer of offshore bonds, with a total of about $300 billion in liabilities. Worries about the company’s ability to repay its debt have raised concerns of spillover into China’s real estate market, which — along with related industries —accounts for about a quarter of national GDP.
    Trading in the three stocks resumed Thursday, more than two weeks after the companies had halted trading ahead of a “major transaction.”

    No progress on asset sales

    The collapse of the Hopson deal comes as Evergrande nears the end of a 30-day grace period for a closely watched $83 million interest payment to investors in an offshore U.S. dollar-denominated bond. If the developer fails to pay by Saturday, it will technically default.

    Evergrande said late Wednesday that since selling its $1.5 billion stake in Shengjing Bank in late September, “there has been no material progress on sale of assets of the Group.”

    Last week, Reuters reported, citing sources, that Chinese state-owned Yuexiu Property has dropped a $1.7 billion deal to buy Evergrande’s Hong Kong headquarters building.
    Both companies did not immediately respond to a CNBC request for comment.
    Evergrande’s high reliance on debt to expand rapidly came under greater government scrutiny last year, with the rollout of “three red lines” policy for real estate companies to reduce the ratio of their debt to their assets.
    China Evergrande had violated all three red lines as of the first half of this year, while Hopson and Yuexiu hadn’t crossed any of those lines, according to Natixis.

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    Evergrande said that as of Oct. 20, the company’s contracted property sales from the beginning of September totaled 3.65 billion yuan ($571.1 million).
    That’s 90% lower than in August, when contracted property sales totaled 38.08 billion yuan.
    Year-to-date contracted sales of properties through Oct. 20 was 442.3 billion yuan, Evergrande said.

    Authorities seek to assure

    China has sought to allay fears of contagion, which spooked global markets earlier.
    Since Friday, the People’s Bank of China has said more than once that Evergrande is an individual, controllable case.
    Most recently, central bank governor Yi Gang said Wednesday that the first measure of response is to prevent Evergrande’s risks from spreading to other real estate companies.
    Vice Premier Liu He said at a financial forum Wednesday that individual problems have appeared in the real estate market, and that reasonable funding needs are being met. Liu did not mention Evergrande by name.

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    CNBC’s Sustainable Future Forum Asia: Money & Investing

    On Thursday, CNBC’s Sustainable Future Forum focused on money and investing.
    We turned the spotlight on money flows and how they can help influence the way we treat the planet.

    Environment-focused finance is a growing but sometimes bewildering industry.
    From full finance systems such as Carbon Trading, to specific and new asset classes like Green Bonds, the choice on where to put your cash has never been greater. CNBC demystifies the systems, analyses the products and shines a light on where some of the world’s most influential investors see the best (and greenest) returns.
    The lineup for Thursday’s sessions are below, and click here for the full schedule of the week.

    Panel: What’s next for ESG investment in Asia?2 p.m. SGT/HK | 7 a.m. BST
    Yimei Li, CEO of ChinaAMC, and Loh Boon Chye, CEO of Singapore Exchange.
    Analysts have hailed Asia as the new frontier for sustainable investment. Boosted by China’s commitment to achieve carbon neutrality by 2060, the region brought in a record $25.4 billion in ESG funds in 2020, up 131% on the year before. ChinaAMC’s CEO Yimei Li and Loh Boon Chye, CEO of SGX, join us to discuss what has been driving growth, whether the momentum can continue, and what challenges remain.
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    Fireside: ESG opportunities in real estate2:20 p.m. SGT/HK | 7:20 a.m. BST
    Lee Chee Koon, Group CEO at CapitaLand Investment.
    The built environment accounts for 38% of all GHG emissions, and therefore has a pivotal role to play in achieving net-zero carbon by 2050. Ranked as one of the top real estate companies in the “Global 100 Most Sustainable Corporations in the World” index, CapitaLand has been leading the way in setting ambitious sustainability goals for the sector. CEO, Lee Chee Koon, joins us to discuss how the company is integrating environmental considerations into its investments, what ESG opportunities there are in real estate and how the industry is transitioning to a more sustainable future.
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    Panel: How investing with principles doesn’t mean sacrificing returns6:30 p.m. SGT/HK | 11:30 a.m. BST
    Tim Adams, president and CEO of the Institute of International Finance, and Fiona Frick, CEO of Unigestion.
    Sustainable finance is booming. A record $231 billion was raised in the first quarter of this year alone, selling green, social and sustainability bonds and $347 billion was poured into ESG-focused investment funds last year. Tim Adams, president and CEO of the Institute of International Finance, and Fiona Frick, CEO of Unigestion, join us to discuss what products are making a difference and how investing with principles does not mean sacrificing returns.
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    Stock futures inch lower in overnight trading after Dow retakes record high

    Stock futures dipped slightly in overnight trading on Wednesday after the blue-chip Dow Jones Industrial Average retook its record high amid solid corporate earnings.
    Dow futures fell 35 points. S&P 500 futures and Nasdaq 100 futures both traded 0.1% lower.

    The 30-stock average jumped about 150 points to hit an intraday record Wednesday, surpassing its peak from mid-August. The S&P 500 climbed 0.4% for its sixth straight positive day, sitting just 0.2% below its all-time high. The tech-heavy Nasdaq Composite closed Wednesday’s session slightly lower, however.

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    “The Dow traded to a new all-time high today, again showing the resilience of dip buyers and the importance of cyclical companies in the stock market rally,” said Chris Zaccarelli, CIO at Independent Advisor Alliance.
    Investors have been monitoring the third-quarter earnings season to assess profit growth as well as signs of cost pressures and supply-chain disruptions. Of the approximately 70 S&P 500 companies that have reported results so far, 86% posted earnings that topped analysts expectations, according to Refinitiv.
    “There are no signs of widespread erosions of margins at the moment. Perhaps there is so much money sloshing about that for now prices are broadly being passed on,” Jim Reid, head of thematic research at Deutsche Bank, said in a note.
    IBM saw its stock dropping more than 5% in extended trading following a revenue miss in the third quarter. its top two business segments — global services and the Cloud & Cognitive Software business — fell short of estimates.

    Tesla shares dipped slightly in after-hours trading Wednesday even after the electric-car maker posted record earnings and revenue in the third quarter that beat expectations.
    Railroad giant CSX jumped more than 3% in extended trading following a stronger-than-expected earnings report.
    On Wednesday, the Food and Drug Administration authorized booster shots of both Johnson & Johnson and Moderna’s Covid vaccines, a critical step in distributing extra doses to tens of millions of people. U.S. regulators also approved “mixing and matching” vaccines.

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    Stocks making the biggest moves after hours: IBM, CSX, Tesla, Lam Research & more

    IBM’s logo seen displayed on a smartphone.
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    Check out the companies making headlines after the bell: 
    IBM — The tech company saw its stock dropping more than 5% in extended trading following a revenue miss in the third quarter. its top two business segments — global services and the Cloud & Cognitive Software business — fell short of estimates.

    CSX Corporation — Shares of the railroad giant climbed more than 3% after a stronger-than-expected earnings report. CSX posted earnings of 43 cents per share, above Refinitiv estimate of 39 cents per share. Its revenue totaled $3.29 billion, versus $3.11 billion expected, according to Refinitiv.
    Las Vegas Sands — Shares of the casino operator dipped over 2% after the company posted wider-than-expected quarterly loss and revenue that was lower than analysts’ expectations. Its quarterly revenue came in at $857 million, much lower than a Refinitiv consensus estimate of $1.34 billion.
    Lam Research — The semiconductor company’s stock fell more than 2% in extended trading following a disappointing quarterly report. Lam Research posted revenue of $4.304 billion in its fiscal first quarter, slightly missing estimate of $4.322 billion, according to FactSet. Its earnings per share came in above expectations, however.
    Tesla — Shares of the electric vehicle company edged lower in after-hours trading even after the company posted earnings and revenue in the third quarter that beat expectations. The record results were driven by improved gross margins of 30.5% on its automotive business and 26.6% overall, both of which are records for at least the last five quarters.

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    Stocks making the biggest moves midday: Pinterest, Sonos, Anthem and more

    Customers view merchandise in an experience room at the Sonos store in New York.
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    Check out the companies making headlines in midday trading.
    Pinterest — Shares of the social media company rallied 12.7% following a Bloomberg News report that said PayPal may acquire Pinterest. PayPal shares fell 4.9%.

    Sonos — Shares of the smart home sound system manufacturer jumped nearly 2% after David Einhorn’s Greenlight Capital said it increased its bet on the company, calling Sonos a “bright growth story.” In a letter to investors obtained by CNBC, the hedge fund manager revealed that his firm expanded what was a small position in Sonos “to a size that makes it worthwhile to discuss.”
    Ford – Shares of the automaker jumped 4% after Credit Suisse upgraded the stock to outperform from neutral. “In the past year, we’ve seen a significant turnaround underway at Ford,” the analyst said. “It has ended its cycle of quarterly earnings disappointments, and its transition to an EV/digital world has sharply accelerated.”
    ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF – The bitcoin futures ETF gained 3.2% in its second day of trading as the price of bitcoin rallied to an all-time high. The fund tracks contracts speculating on the future price of bitcoin.
    Anthem — Shares of the insurance company popped 7.7% in midday trading after Anthem reported better-than-expected quarterly results. Anthem earned $6.79 per share, topping estimates by 42 cents, according to Refinitiv. Anthem made $35.55 billion in revenue, higher than the forecast $35.3 billion.
    Omnicom Group — Omnicom shares slipped 2.2% following the media company’s third-quarter financial results. The company posted profit of $1.65 per share versus $1.37 analysts surveyed by StreetAccount were expecting. Revenue came in at $3.44 billion, slightly short of the $3.46 billion analyst estimate.

    Novavax — Novavax shares sank 14.7% after a Politico report said the drugmaker is having challenges meeting regulators’ quality standards for its Covid vaccine.
    Brinker International – Shares of the Chili’s parent dipped 9.6% after the company warned about the impact of higher labor and commodities costs, saying its margins will be hit. “The Covid surge starting in August exacerbated the industry-wide labor and commodity challenges and impacted our margins and bottom line more than we anticipated,” CEO Wyman Roberts said in a statement. The company will report full quarterly results on Nov. 3.
    Winnebago – Winnebago’s stock dropped 3.1% after the company beating top- and bottom-line estimates during its fiscal fourth quarter. The RV maker earned $2.57 per share excluding items on $1.04 billion in revenue.
    Abbott Laboratories — Shares of the pharmaceutical company rose nearly 3.3% in midday trading after beating on the top and bottom lines of its quarterly results. Abbott earned an adjusted $1.40 per share, topping estimates of 95 cents per share, according to Refinitiv. Revenue came in at $10.93 billion, higher than the forecast $9.56 billion.
    Signature Bank — Shares of New York-based Signature Bank rose 4.4% after the company beat quarterly earnings expectations. The bank reported earnings of $3.88 per share versus the StreetAccount consensus of $3.72 per share.
    WD-40 — Shares of the lubricant maker sank 8.7% after missing on the top and bottom lines of its quarterly results. CEO Garry Ridge said the pandemic had created abnormal swings in the company’s sales results.
    Tegna — Shares of Tegna rose 3.8% following a Bloomberg report that media mogul Byron Allen has received additional backing for his $23 per share offer for the TV broadcasting company. 
    — with reporting from CNBC’s Yun Li, Pippa Stevens, Hannah Miao and Tanaya Macheel.

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    Fixed-income titan Pimco is starting to embrace cryptocurrencies, CIO says

    Fixed-income giant Pimco has dabbled in cryptocurrencies and plans to gradually invest more in digital assets.
    Chief investment officer Daniel Ivascyn told CNBC some of Pimco’s hedge fund portfolios are already trading crypto-linked securities.

    Fixed-income giant Pimco has dabbled in cryptocurrencies and plans to gradually invest more in digital assets that have the potential to disrupt the financial industry, according to chief investment officer Daniel Ivascyn.
    “Now we’re looking at potentially trading certain cryptocurrencies as part of our trend-following strategies or quant-oriented strategies, then doing more work on the fundamental side,” Ivascyn said in an interview with CNBC’s Leslie Picker for Delivering Alpha. “So this will be a gradual process where we spent a lot of time on the internal diligence side speaking to investors. And we’ll take baby steps in an area that’s rapidly growing.”

    His comments came as bitcoin notched a fresh all-time high Wednesday following the successful launch of the first U.S. bitcoin futures exchange-traded fund. It is widely viewed as a landmark for the nascent crypto industry, which has long been pushing for greater acceptance of digital currencies on Wall Street.

    Daniel Ivascyn of PIMCO in 2012
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    The world’s largest cryptocurrency climbed around 4% to $66,416.86, topping a previous record of $64,899 set in mid-April.
    Ivascyn said some of Pimco’s hedge fund portfolios are already trading crypto-linked securities.
    “We’re trading from a relative value perspective. So we’re not taking directional exposure, but we’re looking to take advantage of mispricings between the cash product, popular trust that trades on the exchange, and then the futures,” Ivascyn said. “So that was a starting point for us in a very narrow segment of our business.”
    More and more institutions have started embracing digital tokens.

    Large financial companies including PayPal and Fidelity have made moves into cryptocurrency while the likes of Square and MicroStrategy have used their own balance sheets to buy bitcoin. Morgan Stanley was the first among banks to offer bitcoin funds to its clients, and Goldman Sachs quickly followed with an announcement of its own.
    “You have to understand decentralized finance, because it will be disruptive, and it very well may disrupt our industry, in our business in particular,” Ivascyn said. The firm is “thinking about scenarios where this could take us to ensure that we are competitively prepared to deal with what’s a rapidly changing environment that offers a pretty significant value proposition, particularly for younger generations, or the new generation of the investment community.” More

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    Bitcoin jumps to new high above $66,000 after landmark U.S. ETF launch

    Bitcoin notched a fresh all-time high as investors cheered the successful launch of the first U.S. bitcoin futures exchange-traded fund.
    The world’s largest cryptocurrency previously set its record at $64,899 in mid-April.
    Bullish comments from legendary trader Paul Tudor Jones also boosted sentiment as the billionaire investor said he preferred crypto as an inflation hedge over gold.

    A man looks at the Bitcoin trading graph in a window of a cryptocurrency exchange office on October 19, 2021 in Istanbul, Turkey.
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    Bitcoin notched a fresh all-time high Wednesday as investors cheered the successful launch of the first U.S. bitcoin futures exchange-traded fund.
    The world’s largest cryptocurrency climbed 3.9% to $66,398.25 by 4 p.m. ET, according to Coin Metrics. The coin at its highs passed the $66,900 level Wednesday, topping a previous intraday record of $64,899 set in mid-April.

    “The key here is whether we are able to establish support above $65,000,” said Jesse Proudman, CEO of crypto robo-advisor Makara. “If we can, the classic Q4 crypto rallies we’ve seen in most years could take bitcoin towards some of the loftier price predictions we’ve seen over the past several months. If sell pressure takes over, though, our next leg up could take a while to materialize.”
    Bullish comments from a legendary trader boosted sentiment Wednesday. Billionaire investor Paul Tudor Jones called crypto his preferred inflation hedge over gold.
    “Bitcoin would be a great hedge. Crypto would be a great hedge,” Jones told CNBC’s “Squawk Box.”  “There’s a plan in place for crypto and clearly it’s winning the race against gold at the moment … I would think that would also be a very good inflation hedge. It would be my preferred one over gold at the moment.”

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    Ethereum also rose 7.4% to cross back over the $4,000 level. The world’s second-largest cryptocurrency traded at $4,104.61 approaching its all-time intraday high of 4,380 in May.
    The ProShares Bitcoin Strategy ETF, which tracks bitcoin futures contracts pegged to the future price of the cryptocurrency, rose nearly 5% on its first day of trading Tuesday.

    Not everyone in the crypto market was impressed. Several bitcoin investors want an ETF that tracks spot prices rather than futures.
    Novice investors have had to get to grips with terms like “contango,” where the futures price of a commodity is higher than its spot price, and “backwardation,” which is the opposite.

    “More products are great, but I just don’t see the point of investing in futures-based bitcoin ETFs when you can buy the asset in the spot market,” said Jodie Gunzberg, managing director of CoinDesk Indexes.
    “It’s not like oil or cattle that is impossible to hold physically for most investors. It’s more like gold that can be easily held. Except the cost is more like oil,” she added.
    Still, it’s a landmark for the nascent crypto industry, which has long been pushing for greater acceptance of bitcoin and other digital currencies on Wall Street.
    — CNBC’s Tanaya Macheel contributed reporting.

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    6 reasons why Americans aren’t returning to work

    Millions of lost positions have yet to return to the job market but there are near-record job openings and job growth has been slower than expected in recent months.
    Enhanced unemployment benefits ended nationwide on Labor Day, and even sooner in many states. So far, evidence suggests benefits didn’t play a big role in sidelining workers.
    Other factors are at play, according to economists. They include Covid health risks, early retirements, care duties, built-up savings and other frictions.

    A “Now Hiring” sign outside a store on Aug. 16, 2021 in Arlington, Virginia.
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    On the surface, conditions may seem ripe for a boom in the U.S. labor market.
    There are still 5 million fewer jobs than before the pandemic but job openings are near record highs. And hourly pay has risen, in some sectors by more than 10% in a year.

    Meanwhile, enhanced federal unemployment benefits ended on Labor Day (or sooner) and kids are largely back in the classroom. Both enhanced jobless pay and distance learning, it was thought, had been roadblocks keeping people from returning to work.
    However, that boom hasn’t materialized in recent months — at least, not at the rate many expected. Job growth slowed in September after surging in the spring and early summer, and the labor force shrank.

    “If you had ever told me we’d have millions of workers still on the sidelines and have wages going up because people couldn’t find workers, you could knock me over with a feather,” said Diane Swonk, chief economist at accounting and advisory firm Grant Thornton.
    Early evidence suggests enhanced jobless benefits played at most a small role in keeping people from work. So, why aren’t people rushing back to take jobs?
    There are many reasons and complex nuances, according to economists. Here are some of the main drivers.

    Covid

    Health risks associated with the ongoing Covid pandemic have clearly played a role in recent months, according to economists.
    Job growth slowed in August and September, when caseloads were spiking due to the delta variant. (There were 366,000 and 194,000 new payrolls added those months, respectively, compared to 1.1 million in July and 962,000 in June.)  
    “The September jobs report is a reminder that the pandemic is still what controls our recovery,” said Daniel Zhao, senior economist at job site Glassdoor. “The pandemic is still keeping workers out of the labor force.”
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    A record 4.3 million people quit their jobs in August. Front-line workers in sectors like restaurants, bars and retail quit at the highest rates — lending credence to the idea that fear of contagion and hazards of in-person work are playing a role, Swonk said.
    Job growth should re-accelerate as Covid cases abate, according to Zhao. (There were roughly 76,000 average new daily infections as of Oct. 18, less than half their recent Sept. 1 peak.)

    Early retirements

    Early retirements have also reduced the pool of available workers.
    Older adults are at higher risk of severe illness and death from Covid. They may have opted to start drawing Social Security and live off their nest egg instead of taking a risk at work, economists said. Grandparents may have also offered to watch their grandkids and ease childcare duties for working parents.
    “All those things would push especially hard on people in their 60s to come out of the labor force,” said Aaron Sojourner, a labor economist and associate professor at the University of Minnesota.
    Compared to two years ago, there were 3.6 million more people out of the labor force in September who indicated they don’t want a job right now, Sojourner said, citing U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics data. People age 55 and older account for 89% of the increase.
    “I think we shouldn’t assume they’re never coming back,” Sojourner said. “But for now, they’re not back.”

    Care responsibilities

    Care responsibilities have made it tough for some workers — especially those who can’t work from home — to come off the sidelines.
    For example, many schools reopened for in-person learning for the new academic year, helping ease childcare constraints for parents. But Covid outbreaks have led to sporadic quarantine periods that may stress parents’ ability to hold or commit to a steady job.
    “That uncertainty will make it difficult for workers, especially in front-line service roles,” Zhao said.

    Further, in September, there were 1.8 million more people not working due to caring for someone sick with Covid, relative to a year earlier, according to Sojourner, who analyzed data from the U.S. Census Bureau’s Household Pulse Survey.
    Further, there were 336,000 more people who said they were mainly not working due to care for an elderly person, Sojourner said.

    Savings

    Households across the income scale have been able to amass higher savings relative to pre-pandemic levels.
    Cash balances were up 50% for the typical household in July 2021 relative to two years earlier, according to the JPMorgan Chase Institute.
    “People might feel with a little extra buffer on hand, that they have a little more time to wait,” said Fiona Greig, co-president of the institute. “They don’t have to find a job this moment.”
    The federal government sent large amounts of cash to families to combat the Covid-fueled downturn, including stimulus checks, enhanced unemployment benefits and increased food-stamp benefits. Lawmakers also offered temporary relief to renters, homeowners and student-loan borrowers.

    Getting people back into jobs isn’t something you can do at the snap of a finger.

    Daniel Zhao
    senior economist at Glassdoor

    Families may have also spent less money with certain entertainment and other venues closed during the crisis.
    Balances of the lower-income families are up 70% and those of higher-income families are up 35% over two years, according to institute data.
    But that extra cash may not last long, perhaps pushing workers who deplete savings back to work. Higher-income households have the most savings on a dollar basis (more than $4,000) relative to lower earners (who have $1,000 in their checking accounts), according to the institute.

    Wages

    There may be near-record job openings — but that doesn’t necessarily mean businesses are paying a wage workers will accept.
    Wages have risen more than $1 an hour, or 4.5%, in the past year across all private-sector jobs, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. Some sectors are up more — leisure and hospitality pay is up 11%, to $18.95 an hour, for example. The Bureau attributes the upward pressure on earnings to a rising demand for labor.
    But that higher pay may still not be enough to attract workers from the sidelines, Sojourner said. That’s more likely to be the case if a job has deteriorated in quality, he said — whether because of health risks, increased hours or other inconveniences like dealing with unruly customers who oppose mask requirements. There may also be a competing priority like the cost of child care.

    Corporate profits and productivity are up more than average wages over the past two years, so many employers likely have room to further raise pay, Sojourner said.
    “The big question is, why aren’t companies bidding up wages and working conditions fast enough to pull people off the sidelines?” Sojourner said.

    It will take time

    It will also take a while to work out some of the frictions that have built up in the labor market in the past year and a half, economists said.
    Jobless workers have had ample time during the pandemic to reassess their working lives and what they want from a job. Some may opt to switch careers. The available jobs may also not be in a worker’s prior occupational field or in their geographical area.
    There’s also a mismatch between worker and company expectations. For example, between one-fourth and one-third of corporate chief financial officers expect their organization to return to in-person work full-time, which is fundamentally inconsistent with the flexibility workers want, according to Tim Glowa, a principal at Grant Thornton, citing company surveys.
    And much of the low-hanging fruit in the labor market has already been plucked, so to speak. Many workers who were temporarily laid off (furloughed) early in the downturn have been recalled to their old jobs or moved on to other work — leaving the tougher proposition of hiring the permanently unemployed or people who fell out of the labor force, Zhao said.
    “Getting people back into jobs isn’t something you can do at the snap of a finger,” he added.

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